Game 722987422
[Time] 1590258093 [Gatherling] Event=Penny Dreadful Saturdays 16.05 [Gatherling] Round=2 [04:21:35] PDBot has started watching. [04:21:35] Shadowater0 joined the game. [04:21:42] Shadowater0 chooses to play first. [04:21:46] [CHAT] Shadowater0: hey, gl hf [04:21:50] Shadowater0 mulligans to six cards. [04:21:55] Rakura begins the game with seven cards in hand. [04:21:57] Shadowater0 mulligans to five cards. [04:22:06] Shadowater0 puts two cards on the bottom of their library and begins the game with five cards in hand. [04:22:06] Turn 1: Shadowater0 [04:22:06] Shadowater0 skips their draw step. [04:22:07] Shadowater0 plays [Grand Coliseum]. [04:22:09] Turn 1: Rakura [04:22:12] [CHAT] Rakura: people on this game are too nice lol [04:22:13] Rakura plays [Meandering River]. [04:22:17] Turn 2: Shadowater0 [04:22:20] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge]. [04:22:22] Shadowater0 casts [Fyndhorn Elves]. [04:22:25] Turn 2: Rakura [04:22:31] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost]. [04:22:31] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.). [04:22:36] Turn 3: Shadowater0 [04:22:37] [CHAT] Shadowater0: ? [04:22:45] Shadowater0 casts [Satyr Wayfinder]. [04:22:56] [CHAT] Rakura: i'm always hearing someone tell me that almost every match [04:22:58] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Satyr Wayfinder] onto the stack (When Satyr Wayfinder enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. You may pu...). [04:23:03] [CHAT] Rakura: well not hearing but [04:23:11] [CHAT] Rakura: someone is telling me that always [04:23:13] Shadowater0 reveals 4 cards with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability: [Greater Good], [Tendo Ice Bridge], [Plains], and [Yosei, the Morning Star]. [04:23:17] Shadowater0 puts [Plains] into their hand with with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability. [04:23:17] Shadowater0 puts [Greater Good], [Tendo Ice Bridge], and [Yosei, the Morning Star] into their graveyard. [04:23:19] Shadowater0 plays [Plains]. [04:23:27] Rakura casts [Omen of the Sea]. [04:23:28] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Omen of the Sea] onto the stack (When Omen of the Sea enters the battlefield, scry 2, then draw a card.). [04:23:34] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library and 1 card on top of their library. [04:23:34] Rakura draws a card with [Omen of the Sea]'s ability. [04:23:34] Turn 3: Rakura [04:23:36] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost]. [04:23:37] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.). [04:23:43] Turn 4: Shadowater0 [04:23:49] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah, now that you mention it, even if it's something "mechanical" for most people [04:23:53] [CHAT] Shadowater0: it's nice that they actually do that [04:23:56] Shadowater0 plays [Gavony Township]. [04:24:01] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder]. [04:24:09] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:24:13] Kudo355 has started watching. [04:24:15] Rakura casts [Memory Lapse] targeting [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:24:19] Turn 4: Rakura [04:24:22] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost]. [04:24:22] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.). [04:24:26] Turn 5: Shadowater0 [04:24:32] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:24:42] Rakura casts [Broken Ambitions] targeting [Recurring Nightmare]. (X is 3). [04:24:45] Rakura reveals [Pull from Tomorrow]. [04:24:45] Shadowater0 reveals [Forest]. [04:24:45] Rakura wins the clash. [04:24:51] Shadowater0 puts 1 card on the bottom of their library. [04:24:53] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library. [04:25:02] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder] and [Fyndhorn Elves]. [04:25:04] Turn 5: Rakura [04:25:08] Rakura casts [Fact or Fiction]. [04:25:33] Rakura puts [Plains], [Island], [Meandering River] into their hand with [Fact or Fiction]. [04:25:33] Rakura puts [Elite Guardmage], [Prophetic Prism] into their graveyard. [04:25:35] Rakura plays [Meandering River]. [04:25:36] Turn 6: Shadowater0 [04:25:41] Shadowater0 plays [Swamp]. [04:25:45] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:25:49] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Yosei, the Morning Star] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...). [04:25:53] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:25:56] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Satyr Wayfinder] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...). [04:25:59] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Yosei, the Morning Star] onto the stack targeting Rakura, and [Omen of the Sea] (When Yosei, the Morning Star dies, target player skips their next untap step. Tap up to five targe...). [04:26:02] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Satyr Wayfinder] onto the stack (When Satyr Wayfinder enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. You may pu...). [04:26:03] Shadowater0 reveals 4 cards with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability: [Forest], [Yosei, the Morning Star], [Commune with the Gods], and [Karador, Ghost Chieftain]. [04:26:04] Shadowater0 puts [Forest] into their hand with with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability. [04:26:06] Shadowater0 puts [Commune with the Gods], [Karador, Ghost Chieftain], and [Yosei, the Morning Star] into their graveyard. [04:26:07] Turn 6: Rakura [04:26:07] Rakura skips his or her untap phase. [04:26:11] Rakura plays [Tranquil Cove]. [04:26:11] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Tranquil Cove] onto the stack (When Tranquil Cove enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.). [04:26:13] Turn 7: Shadowater0 [04:26:17] Shadowater0 plays [Forest]. [04:26:20] [CHAT] Rakura: it's over for me now right? [04:26:20] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:26:23] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah [04:26:24] [CHAT] Rakura: i'm locked out [04:26:26] [CHAT] Shadowater0: unless you can win with 1 mana [04:26:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: or at least stop the lock [04:26:34] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder]. [04:26:46] [CHAT] Rakura: idk if it matters but i can run down your clock some [04:26:58] [CHAT] Shadowater0: not really, eventually ill get yosei on the board [04:27:02] [CHAT] Shadowater0: as im getting land drops with satyr [04:27:08] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Yosei, the Morning Star] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...). [04:27:12] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare]. [04:27:21] [CHAT] Rakura: yeah but i'm on yield through everything [04:27:25] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Karador, Ghost Chieftain] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...). [04:27:29] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Yosei, the Morning Star] onto the stack targeting Rakura (When Yosei, the Morning Star dies, target player skips their next untap step. Tap up to five targe...). [04:27:31] [CHAT] Rakura: so it'll take a couple minutes for you to win [04:27:32] Turn 7: Rakura [04:27:32] Rakura skips his or her untap phase. [04:27:35] Rakura plays [Plains]. [04:27:51] [CHAT] Rakura: sigh [04:27:51] [CHAT] Shadowater0: go for it then [04:27:52] [CHAT] Rakura: gg [04:27:55] Rakura has conceded from the game. Winner: Shadowater0 Game 1 Completed. [04:28:00] Shadowater0 has left the game. [04:28:02] Kudo355 has stopped watching.
Game 722988400
[Time] 1590258604 [04:30:05] PDBot has started watching. [04:30:12] [CHAT] Rakura: screw the rules I have money! "seto kaiba" [04:30:28] [CHAT] Shadowater0: damn mate, just last week i tried to download the first couple episodes [04:30:31] [CHAT] Rakura: making you do the motions isn't considered stalling is it? [04:30:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: pretty nostalgic [04:30:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: no it isn't [04:30:45] [CHAT] Shadowater0: IRL you can shortcut loops [04:30:51] [CHAT] Shadowater0: mtgo you can't [04:31:02] [CHAT] Rakura: well you can just play normal because i would want the information [04:31:06] Rakura chooses to play first. [04:31:10] Rakura mulligans to six cards. [04:31:21] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yosei lock IRL wouldn't take 3 seconds "i'm doing double nightmare again and tapping your stuff" and that's done [04:31:24] Shadowater0 begins the game with seven cards in hand. [04:31:30] Rakura puts a card on the bottom of their library and begins the game with six cards in hand. [04:31:30] Turn 1: Rakura [04:31:32] Rakura skips their draw step. [04:31:32] Rakura plays [Cloudpost]. [04:31:37] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah information is key for some decks, that's another valid point of not conceding [04:31:39] Turn 1: Shadowater0 [04:31:40] Shadowater0 plays [Forest]. [04:31:42] Shadowater0 casts [Llanowar Elves]. [04:31:44] Turn 2: Rakura [04:31:56] [CHAT] Rakura: so you just tell me what you do? [04:32:04] Rakura plays [Island]. [04:32:06] Rakura casts [Omen of the Sea]. [04:32:08] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Omen of the Sea] onto the stack (When Omen of the Sea enters the battlefield, scry 2, then draw a card.). [04:32:15] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library and 1 card on top of their library. [04:32:15] Rakura draws a card with [Omen of the Sea]'s ability. [04:32:16] Turn 2: Shadowater0 [04:32:18] [CHAT] Shadowater0: IRL? yeah, if i got to the loop point [04:32:20] Shadowater0 plays [Forest]. [04:32:22] Shadowater0 casts [Springbloom Druid]. [04:32:23] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Springbloom Druid] onto the stack (When Springbloom Druid enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a land. If you do, search your li...). [04:32:26] Shadowater0 sacrifices [Forest] to [Springbloom Druid]'s ability. [04:32:30] [CHAT] Rakura: there isn't really a loop you're just playing a spell [04:32:32] [CHAT] Rakura: twice [04:32:35] Turn 3: Rakura [04:32:46] [CHAT] Shadowater0: that's still shortcuttable IRL [04:32:47] Rakura casts [Silent Gravestone]. [04:32:49] Rakura plays [Tranquil Cove]. [04:32:50] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Tranquil Cove] onto the stack (When Tranquil Cove enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.). [04:32:53] Turn 3: Shadowater0 [04:32:53] [CHAT] Shadowater0: same as tron in pauper with dinrova + wall + flicker [04:32:58] [CHAT] Rakura: i might call a judge at that point [04:33:03] [CHAT] Rakura: i don't play in many tournaments [04:33:05] [CHAT] Rakura: mostly fnm [04:33:17] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge]. [04:33:20] Shadowater0 casts [Deep Forest Hermit]. [04:33:20] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Deep Forest Hermit] onto the stack (When Deep Forest Hermit enters the battlefield, create four 1/1 green Squirrel creature tokens.). [04:33:24] Shadowater0's [Deep Forest Hermit] creates four Squirrel tokens. [04:33:27] Rakura is being attacked by [Springbloom Druid]. [04:33:29] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you can, but it's still shortcuttable [04:33:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: in a format with no free spells to interact, there isn't much bluffing when you are tapped out [04:33:55] [CHAT] Rakura: i feel like your cheating [04:34:01] [CHAT] Shadowater0: so if you say "i want him to manually do the double nightmare" just for the sake of wasting time [04:34:10] [CHAT] Shadowater0: then you are stalling, as time shouldnt be a resource IRL [04:34:16] [CHAT] Shadowater0: how would that be cheating? [04:34:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm doing legal actions throughout the loop, i'm just not wasting time, instead of manually picking the cards and moving them twice [04:34:42] [CHAT] Rakura: because you're kinda saying i'm bm for not conceding [04:34:51] [CHAT] Rakura: see [04:34:56] [CHAT] Shadowater0: no you're not [04:35:06] Turn 4: Rakura [04:35:07] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you CAN stay in the game till I do lethal, that's valid [04:35:11] Rakura plays [Island]. [04:35:14] Rakura casts [Fact or Fiction]. [04:35:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: what you can't is actually making me go through the physical motion of moving the cards at a point in the game where you have no interaction [04:35:59] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and you are doing that clearly *just* to waste time and try to have a tie or win 1-0 cuz of clock [04:36:04] [CHAT] Shadowater0: that's stalling IRL [04:36:05] [CHAT] Rakura: but when you tell me hey look what i can do and now i've done it once then i can do it infinite amount of times in the remaining amount of time in the round [04:36:19] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not saying "i do it infinite times" [04:36:22] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i do it in my turn [04:36:26] [CHAT] Shadowater0: "double nightmare on yosei, tapping your stuff" [04:36:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: "play land, hit you for 1, go" [04:36:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you pass your turn, i repeat that [04:36:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not actually saying the game ends then and there [04:36:45] [CHAT] Rakura: but why not just do it [04:37:13] [CHAT] Shadowater0: cuz it would be using more time than needed [04:37:19] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and IRL time isn't a resource to be used as it's in MTGO [04:38:01] Rakura puts [Neutralize], [Fact or Fiction], [Cloudpost] into their hand with [Fact or Fiction]. [04:38:01] Rakura puts [Omen of the Sea], [Silent Gravestone] into their graveyard. [04:38:10] Turn 4: Shadowater0 [04:38:10] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Deep Forest Hermit] onto the stack (Vanishing 3 (At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from this card.)). [04:38:11] [CHAT] Shadowater0: if you are tapped out, can't interact in any way with whatever i'm doing, why would you make me manually do the double nightmare? [04:38:27] [CHAT] Shadowater0: if the only reason is "cuz that takes more time" then yeah, you are stalling [04:38:30] [CHAT] Rakura: why are you trying to get me to concede [04:38:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not mate [04:38:39] [CHAT] Rakura: it feels like it lol [04:38:50] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i actually said earlier that making me go through the motions in MTGO is totally fine [04:38:56] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge]. [04:39:02] Shadowater0 casts [Yosei, the Morning Star]. [04:39:12] [CHAT] Shadowater0: what I said is that, if that's done IRL, then it's stalling and against the rules [04:39:14] [CHAT] Shadowater0: MTGO? go for it [04:39:17] Rakura is being attacked by [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Deep Forest Hermit], and [Springbloom Druid]. [04:39:23] Turn 5: Rakura [04:39:23] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i even said I do it plenty of times in leagues [04:39:35] [CHAT] Rakura: so there is no clock irl? [04:39:38] [CHAT] Rakura: i doubt that [04:39:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: not like in mtgo [04:39:52] [CHAT] Shadowater0: where it's 25 min per player, and if you run out you lose [04:39:55] [CHAT] Shadowater0: it's 50 min for the round [04:40:00] [CHAT] Shadowater0: so you can actually tie IRL [04:40:03] [CHAT] Shadowater0: but you can't tie in mtgo [04:40:12] [CHAT] Shadowater0: clock here isn't a shared resource [04:40:29] [CHAT] Rakura: so mtgo is more like speed chess [04:40:33] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah [04:40:35] [CHAT] Rakura: and paper is different [04:40:49] [CHAT] Shadowater0: for example, if I win first game, if it wasn't against the rules, I could just wait 40 minutes shuffling my deck [04:40:55] [CHAT] Rakura: and you take shortcuts [04:40:57] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and then when time's over "oh no, i won 1-0" [04:41:12] [CHAT] Rakura: why would you do that [04:41:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: cuz on paper you can, and it would be an easy win for anyone that won first game [04:41:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: thing is, it's against the rules [04:41:55] [CHAT] Shadowater0: whereas you can't physically stall in MTGO [04:42:07] [CHAT] Shadowater0: as if you take longer in your own actions, you are using your time [04:42:13] Rakura has conceded from the game. Winner: Shadowater0 Game 2 Completed. Match Winner: Shadowater0: 2–0 [04:42:16] Rakura has left the game.