PennyDreadful
PDS R2 vs Rakura
BuggedCardObserver,PennyDreadfulLegality,Tourney
Rakura,Shadowater0

== Game 1 (722987422) ==
[Time] 1590258093
[Gatherling] Event=Penny Dreadful Saturdays 16.05
[Gatherling] Round=2
[04:21:35] PDBot has started watching.
[04:21:35] Shadowater0 joined the game.
[04:21:42] Shadowater0 chooses to play first.
[04:21:46] [CHAT] Shadowater0: hey, gl hf
[04:21:50] Shadowater0 mulligans to six cards.
[04:21:55] Rakura begins the game with seven cards in hand.
[04:21:57] Shadowater0 mulligans to five cards.
[04:22:06] Shadowater0 puts two cards on the bottom of their library and begins the game with five cards in hand.
[04:22:06] Turn 1: Shadowater0
[04:22:06] Shadowater0 skips their draw step.
[04:22:07] Shadowater0 plays [Grand Coliseum].
[04:22:09] Turn 1: Rakura
[04:22:12] [CHAT] Rakura: people on this game are too nice lol
[04:22:13] Rakura plays [Meandering River].
[04:22:17] Turn 2: Shadowater0
[04:22:20] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge].
[04:22:22] Shadowater0 casts [Fyndhorn Elves].
[04:22:25] Turn 2: Rakura
[04:22:31] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost].
[04:22:31] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.).
[04:22:36] Turn 3: Shadowater0
[04:22:37] [CHAT] Shadowater0: ?
[04:22:45] Shadowater0 casts [Satyr Wayfinder].
[04:22:56] [CHAT] Rakura: i'm always hearing someone tell me that almost every match
[04:22:58] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Satyr Wayfinder] onto the stack (When Satyr Wayfinder enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. You may pu...).
[04:23:03] [CHAT] Rakura: well not hearing but
[04:23:11] [CHAT] Rakura: someone is telling me that always
[04:23:13] Shadowater0 reveals 4 cards with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability: [Greater Good], [Tendo Ice Bridge], [Plains], and [Yosei, the Morning Star].
[04:23:17] Shadowater0 puts [Plains] into their hand with with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability.
[04:23:17] Shadowater0 puts [Greater Good], [Tendo Ice Bridge], and [Yosei, the Morning Star] into their graveyard.
[04:23:19] Shadowater0 plays [Plains].
[04:23:27] Rakura casts [Omen of the Sea].
[04:23:28] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Omen of the Sea] onto the stack (When Omen of the Sea enters the battlefield, scry 2, then draw a card.).
[04:23:34] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library and 1 card on top of their library.
[04:23:34] Rakura draws a card with [Omen of the Sea]'s ability.
[04:23:34] Turn 3: Rakura
[04:23:36] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost].
[04:23:37] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.).
[04:23:43] Turn 4: Shadowater0
[04:23:49] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah, now that you mention it, even if it's something "mechanical" for most people
[04:23:53] [CHAT] Shadowater0: it's nice that they actually do that
[04:23:56] Shadowater0 plays [Gavony Township].
[04:24:01] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder].
[04:24:09] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:24:13] Kudo355 has started watching.
[04:24:15] Rakura casts [Memory Lapse] targeting [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:24:19] Turn 4: Rakura
[04:24:22] Rakura plays [Glimmerpost].
[04:24:22] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Glimmerpost] onto the stack (When Glimmerpost enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life for each Locus on the battlefield.).
[04:24:26] Turn 5: Shadowater0
[04:24:32] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:24:42] Rakura casts [Broken Ambitions] targeting [Recurring Nightmare]. (X is 3).
[04:24:45] Rakura reveals [Pull from Tomorrow].
[04:24:45] Shadowater0 reveals [Forest].
[04:24:45] Rakura wins the clash.
[04:24:51] Shadowater0 puts 1 card on the bottom of their library.
[04:24:53] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library.
[04:25:02] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder] and [Fyndhorn Elves].
[04:25:04] Turn 5: Rakura
[04:25:08] Rakura casts [Fact or Fiction].
[04:25:33] Rakura puts [Plains], [Island], [Meandering River] into their hand with [Fact or Fiction].
[04:25:33] Rakura puts [Elite Guardmage], [Prophetic Prism] into their graveyard.
[04:25:35] Rakura plays [Meandering River].
[04:25:36] Turn 6: Shadowater0
[04:25:41] Shadowater0 plays [Swamp].
[04:25:45] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:25:49] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Yosei, the Morning Star] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...).
[04:25:53] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:25:56] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Satyr Wayfinder] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...).
[04:25:59] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Yosei, the Morning Star] onto the stack targeting Rakura, and [Omen of the Sea] (When Yosei, the Morning Star dies, target player skips their next untap step. Tap up to five targe...).
[04:26:02] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Satyr Wayfinder] onto the stack (When Satyr Wayfinder enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. You may pu...).
[04:26:03] Shadowater0 reveals 4 cards with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability: [Forest], [Yosei, the Morning Star], [Commune with the Gods], and [Karador, Ghost Chieftain].
[04:26:04] Shadowater0 puts [Forest] into their hand with with [Satyr Wayfinder]'s ability.
[04:26:06] Shadowater0 puts [Commune with the Gods], [Karador, Ghost Chieftain], and [Yosei, the Morning Star] into their graveyard.
[04:26:07] Turn 6: Rakura
[04:26:07] Rakura skips his or her untap phase.
[04:26:11] Rakura plays [Tranquil Cove].
[04:26:11] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Tranquil Cove] onto the stack (When Tranquil Cove enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.).
[04:26:13] Turn 7: Shadowater0
[04:26:17] Shadowater0 plays [Forest].
[04:26:20] [CHAT] Rakura: it's over for me now right?
[04:26:20] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:26:23] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah
[04:26:24] [CHAT] Rakura: i'm locked out
[04:26:26] [CHAT] Shadowater0: unless you can win with 1 mana
[04:26:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: or at least stop the lock
[04:26:34] Rakura is being attacked by [Satyr Wayfinder].
[04:26:46] [CHAT] Rakura: idk if it matters but i can run down your clock some
[04:26:58] [CHAT] Shadowater0: not really, eventually ill get  yosei on the board
[04:27:02] [CHAT] Shadowater0: as im getting land drops with satyr
[04:27:08] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Yosei, the Morning Star] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...).
[04:27:12] Shadowater0 casts [Recurring Nightmare].
[04:27:21] [CHAT] Rakura: yeah but i'm on yield through everything
[04:27:25] Shadowater0 activates an ability of [Recurring Nightmare] targeting [Karador, Ghost Chieftain] (Sacrifice a creature, Return Recurring Nightmare to its owner's hand: Return target creature card ...).
[04:27:29] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Yosei, the Morning Star] onto the stack targeting Rakura (When Yosei, the Morning Star dies, target player skips their next untap step. Tap up to five targe...).
[04:27:31] [CHAT] Rakura: so it'll take a couple minutes for you to win
[04:27:32] Turn 7: Rakura
[04:27:32] Rakura skips his or her untap phase.
[04:27:35] Rakura plays [Plains].
[04:27:51] [CHAT] Rakura: sigh
[04:27:51] [CHAT] Shadowater0: go for it then
[04:27:52] [CHAT] Rakura: gg
[04:27:55] Rakura has conceded from the game.
Winner: Shadowater0
Game 1 Completed.
[04:28:00] Shadowater0 has left the game.
[04:28:02] Kudo355 has stopped watching.

== Game 2 (722988400) ==
[Time] 1590258604
[04:30:05] PDBot has started watching.
[04:30:12] [CHAT] Rakura: screw the rules I have money! "seto kaiba"
[04:30:28] [CHAT] Shadowater0: damn mate, just last week i tried to download the first couple episodes
[04:30:31] [CHAT] Rakura: making you do the motions isn't considered stalling is it?
[04:30:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: pretty nostalgic
[04:30:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: no it isn't
[04:30:45] [CHAT] Shadowater0: IRL you can shortcut loops
[04:30:51] [CHAT] Shadowater0: mtgo you can't
[04:31:02] [CHAT] Rakura: well you can just play normal because i would want the information
[04:31:06] Rakura chooses to play first.
[04:31:10] Rakura mulligans to six cards.
[04:31:21] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yosei lock IRL wouldn't take 3 seconds "i'm doing double nightmare again and tapping your stuff" and that's done
[04:31:24] Shadowater0 begins the game with seven cards in hand.
[04:31:30] Rakura puts a card on the bottom of their library and begins the game with six cards in hand.
[04:31:30] Turn 1: Rakura
[04:31:32] Rakura skips their draw step.
[04:31:32] Rakura plays [Cloudpost].
[04:31:37] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah information is key for some decks, that's another valid point of not conceding
[04:31:39] Turn 1: Shadowater0
[04:31:40] Shadowater0 plays [Forest].
[04:31:42] Shadowater0 casts [Llanowar Elves].
[04:31:44] Turn 2: Rakura
[04:31:56] [CHAT] Rakura: so you just tell me what you do?
[04:32:04] Rakura plays [Island].
[04:32:06] Rakura casts [Omen of the Sea].
[04:32:08] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Omen of the Sea] onto the stack (When Omen of the Sea enters the battlefield, scry 2, then draw a card.).
[04:32:15] Rakura puts 1 card on the bottom of their library and 1 card on top of their library.
[04:32:15] Rakura draws a card with [Omen of the Sea]'s ability.
[04:32:16] Turn 2: Shadowater0
[04:32:18] [CHAT] Shadowater0: IRL? yeah, if i got to the loop point
[04:32:20] Shadowater0 plays [Forest].
[04:32:22] Shadowater0 casts [Springbloom Druid].
[04:32:23] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Springbloom Druid] onto the stack (When Springbloom Druid enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a land. If you do, search your li...).
[04:32:26] Shadowater0 sacrifices [Forest] to [Springbloom Druid]'s ability.
[04:32:30] [CHAT] Rakura: there isn't really a loop you're just playing a spell
[04:32:32] [CHAT] Rakura: twice
[04:32:35] Turn 3: Rakura
[04:32:46] [CHAT] Shadowater0: that's still shortcuttable IRL
[04:32:47] Rakura casts [Silent Gravestone].
[04:32:49] Rakura plays [Tranquil Cove].
[04:32:50] Rakura puts triggered ability from [Tranquil Cove] onto the stack (When Tranquil Cove enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.).
[04:32:53] Turn 3: Shadowater0
[04:32:53] [CHAT] Shadowater0: same as tron in pauper with dinrova + wall + flicker
[04:32:58] [CHAT] Rakura: i might call a judge at that point
[04:33:03] [CHAT] Rakura: i don't play in many tournaments
[04:33:05] [CHAT] Rakura: mostly fnm
[04:33:17] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge].
[04:33:20] Shadowater0 casts [Deep Forest Hermit].
[04:33:20] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Deep Forest Hermit] onto the stack (When Deep Forest Hermit enters the battlefield, create four 1/1 green Squirrel creature tokens.).
[04:33:24] Shadowater0's [Deep Forest Hermit] creates four Squirrel tokens.
[04:33:27] Rakura is being attacked by [Springbloom Druid].
[04:33:29] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you can, but it's still shortcuttable
[04:33:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: in a format with no free spells to interact, there isn't much bluffing when you are tapped out
[04:33:55] [CHAT] Rakura: i feel like your cheating
[04:34:01] [CHAT] Shadowater0: so if you say "i want him to manually do the double nightmare" just for the sake of wasting time
[04:34:10] [CHAT] Shadowater0: then you are stalling, as time shouldnt be a resource IRL
[04:34:16] [CHAT] Shadowater0: how would that be cheating?
[04:34:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm doing legal actions throughout the loop, i'm just not wasting time, instead of manually picking the cards and moving them twice
[04:34:42] [CHAT] Rakura: because you're kinda saying i'm bm for not conceding
[04:34:51] [CHAT] Rakura: see
[04:34:56] [CHAT] Shadowater0: no you're not
[04:35:06] Turn 4: Rakura
[04:35:07] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you CAN stay in the game till I do lethal, that's valid
[04:35:11] Rakura plays [Island].
[04:35:14] Rakura casts [Fact or Fiction].
[04:35:40] [CHAT] Shadowater0: what you can't is actually making me go through the physical motion of moving the cards at a point in the game where you have no interaction
[04:35:59] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and you are doing that clearly *just* to waste time and try to have a tie or win 1-0 cuz of clock
[04:36:04] [CHAT] Shadowater0: that's stalling IRL
[04:36:05] [CHAT] Rakura: but when you tell me hey look what i can do and now i've done it once then i can do it infinite amount of times in the remaining amount of time in the round
[04:36:19] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not saying "i do it infinite times"
[04:36:22] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i do it in my turn
[04:36:26] [CHAT] Shadowater0: "double nightmare on yosei, tapping your stuff"
[04:36:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: "play land, hit you for 1, go"
[04:36:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: you pass your turn, i repeat that
[04:36:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not actually saying the game ends then and there
[04:36:45] [CHAT] Rakura: but why not just do it
[04:37:13] [CHAT] Shadowater0: cuz it would be using more time than needed
[04:37:19] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and IRL time isn't a resource to be used as it's in MTGO
[04:38:01] Rakura puts [Neutralize], [Fact or Fiction], [Cloudpost] into their hand with [Fact or Fiction].
[04:38:01] Rakura puts [Omen of the Sea], [Silent Gravestone] into their graveyard.
[04:38:10] Turn 4: Shadowater0
[04:38:10] Shadowater0 puts triggered ability from [Deep Forest Hermit] onto the stack (Vanishing 3 (At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from this card.)).
[04:38:11] [CHAT] Shadowater0: if you are tapped out, can't interact in any way with whatever i'm doing, why would you make me manually do the double nightmare?
[04:38:27] [CHAT] Shadowater0: if the only reason is "cuz that takes more time" then yeah, you are stalling
[04:38:30] [CHAT] Rakura: why are you trying to get me to concede
[04:38:35] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i'm not mate
[04:38:39] [CHAT] Rakura: it feels like it lol
[04:38:50] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i actually said earlier that making me go through the motions in MTGO is totally fine
[04:38:56] Shadowater0 plays [Tendo Ice Bridge].
[04:39:02] Shadowater0 casts [Yosei, the Morning Star].
[04:39:12] [CHAT] Shadowater0: what I said is that, if that's done IRL, then it's stalling and against the rules
[04:39:14] [CHAT] Shadowater0: MTGO? go for it
[04:39:17] Rakura is being attacked by [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Squirrel] token, [Deep Forest Hermit], and [Springbloom Druid].
[04:39:23] Turn 5: Rakura
[04:39:23] [CHAT] Shadowater0: i even said I do it plenty of times in leagues
[04:39:35] [CHAT] Rakura: so there is no clock irl?
[04:39:38] [CHAT] Rakura: i doubt that
[04:39:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: not like in mtgo
[04:39:52] [CHAT] Shadowater0: where it's 25 min per player, and if you run out you lose
[04:39:55] [CHAT] Shadowater0: it's 50 min for the round
[04:40:00] [CHAT] Shadowater0: so you can actually tie IRL
[04:40:03] [CHAT] Shadowater0: but you can't tie in mtgo
[04:40:12] [CHAT] Shadowater0: clock here isn't a shared resource
[04:40:29] [CHAT] Rakura: so mtgo is more like speed chess
[04:40:33] [CHAT] Shadowater0: yeah
[04:40:35] [CHAT] Rakura: and paper is different
[04:40:49] [CHAT] Shadowater0: for example, if I win first game, if it wasn't against the rules, I could just wait 40 minutes shuffling my deck
[04:40:55] [CHAT] Rakura: and you take shortcuts
[04:40:57] [CHAT] Shadowater0: and then when time's over "oh no, i won 1-0"
[04:41:12] [CHAT] Rakura: why would you do that
[04:41:30] [CHAT] Shadowater0: cuz on paper you can, and it would be an easy win for anyone that won first game
[04:41:43] [CHAT] Shadowater0: thing is, it's against the rules
[04:41:55] [CHAT] Shadowater0: whereas you can't physically stall in MTGO
[04:42:07] [CHAT] Shadowater0: as if you take longer in your own actions, you are using your time
[04:42:13] Rakura has conceded from the game.
Winner: Shadowater0
Game 2 Completed.
Match Winner: Shadowater0: 2–0
[04:42:16] Rakura has left the game.