Commander Please no cEDH win cons and please no ally-punishing via conceding. BuggedCardObserver Dennabeast,Magical_Hacker,TheUr-Dragon,IHateFPS == Game 1 (844951542) == [Time] 1689823852 [06:30:54] PDBot has started watching. [06:31:01] Dennabeast chooses to play first. [06:31:01] Dennabeast chooses [Arcades, the Strategist] as their commander. [06:31:01] Magical_Hacker chooses [Etali, Primal Storm] as their commander. [06:31:01] IHateFPS chooses [Sefris of the Hidden Ways] as their commander. [06:31:02] TheUr-Dragon chooses [Xenagos, God of Revels] as their commander. [06:31:03] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: hi everyone [06:31:04] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: good luck and have fun [06:31:19] Dennabeast begins the game with seven cards in hand. [06:31:24] Magical_Hacker mulligans to seven cards. [06:31:27] IHateFPS begins the game with seven cards in hand. [06:31:35] TheUr-Dragon begins the game with seven cards in hand. [06:31:47] [CHAT] Dennabeast: glhf [06:32:01] Magical_Hacker begins the game with seven cards in hand. [06:32:01] Turn 1: Dennabeast [06:32:15] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Thanks you too! [06:32:35] Dennabeast plays [Woodland Stream]. [06:32:48] Turn 1: Magical_Hacker [06:33:00] Magical_Hacker plays [Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass]. [06:33:08] Turn 1: IHateFPS [06:33:14] IHateFPS plays [Godless Shrine]. [06:33:21] Turn 1: TheUr-Dragon [06:33:26] TheUr-Dragon plays [Snow-Covered Forest]. [06:33:35] Turn 2: Dennabeast [06:33:47] Dennabeast plays [Terramorphic Expanse]. [06:33:50] Dennabeast activates an ability of [Terramorphic Expanse] ( Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.). [06:34:09] Louis_Louis has started watching. [06:34:18] Turn 2: Magical_Hacker [06:34:33] Louis_Louis has stopped watching. [06:34:37] Magical_Hacker plays [Flamekin Village]. [06:34:48] Turn 2: IHateFPS [06:34:57] IHateFPS plays [Swamp]. [06:35:01] IHateFPS casts [Arcane Signet]. [06:35:12] Turn 2: TheUr-Dragon [06:35:18] TheUr-Dragon plays [Snow-Covered Forest]. [06:35:22] TheUr-Dragon casts [Farseek]. [06:35:43] Turn 3: Dennabeast [06:36:27] Dennabeast casts [Wall of Shards]. [06:36:41] Turn 3: Magical_Hacker [06:36:54] Magical_Hacker plays [Mountain]. [06:37:07] Turn 3: IHateFPS [06:37:25] IHateFPS plays [Swamp]. [06:37:34] IHateFPS casts [Sefris of the Hidden Ways]. [06:37:46] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: An 8/8 flier for 2. This doesn't seem like what Garfield intended... [06:37:53] Turn 3: TheUr-Dragon [06:38:12] TheUr-Dragon plays [Cinder Glade]. [06:38:19] TheUr-Dragon casts [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion]. [06:38:33] Turn 4: Dennabeast [06:38:33] Dennabeast puts triggered ability from [Wall of Shards] onto the stack (Cumulative upkeepAn opponent gains 1 life (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this permanent ...). [06:38:36] Dennabeast puts an age counter on [Wall of Shards]. [06:38:36] [CHAT] Dennabeast: 1 8 wink* [06:38:44] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: :) [06:38:59] Dennabeast casts [Wall of Omens]. [06:39:02] Dennabeast puts triggered ability from [Wall of Omens] onto the stack (When Wall of Omens enters the battlefield, draw a card.). [06:39:11] Dennabeast draws a card with [Wall of Omens]'s ability. [06:39:25] [CHAT] Dennabeast: bro my lands are on break i guess\ [06:40:01] Dennabeast discards [Jungle Barrier]. [06:40:03] Turn 4: Magical_Hacker [06:40:10] Magical_Hacker plays [Temple of the False God]. [06:40:20] Turn 4: IHateFPS [06:40:22] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: I have had bad luck with this one too. Between games I looked at my avg cmc in this deck and it is almost 4. I need to cut some six drops. [06:40:50] IHateFPS casts [Ringsight]. [06:41:03] IHateFPS is tempted by the Ring. [Sefris of the Hidden Ways] becomes their Ring-bearer. [06:41:18] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: As I say that, I realize I am playing the wrong Neheb. The one I want is a five drop! [06:41:29] IHateFPS reveals [Street Wraith]. [06:41:39] IHateFPS discards Magical_Hacker. [06:41:39] IHateFPS cycles Magical_Hacker. [06:41:40] IHateFPS puts triggered ability from [Sefris of the Hidden Ways] onto the stack (Whenever one or more creature cards are put into your graveyard from anywhere, venture into the du...). [06:41:44] IHateFPS discards [Razaketh's Rite]. [06:41:44] IHateFPS cycles [Razaketh's Rite]. [06:41:57] IHateFPS ventures into [Lost Mine of Phandelver]'s Cave Entrance. [06:41:58] IHateFPS puts triggered ability from [Lost Mine of Phandelver] onto the stack (When you put your venture marker on this room, scry 1.). [06:42:05] IHateFPS scrys 1 (1 top, 0 bottom). [06:42:11] IHateFPS plays [Command Tower]. [06:42:41] Turn 4: TheUr-Dragon [06:44:40] IHateFPS is being attacked by [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] [06:45:00] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] onto the stack (Whenever Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, you may disca...). [06:45:20] TheUr-Dragon discards [Three Visits]. [06:45:20] TheUr-Dragon discards [Vandalblast]. [06:45:20] TheUr-Dragon discards [Bala Ged Recovery]. [06:45:20] TheUr-Dragon discards [Pathbreaker Ibex]. [06:45:20] TheUr-Dragon draws four cards with [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion]'s ability. [06:45:41] TheUr-Dragon plays [Snow-Covered Mountain]. [06:46:35] TheUr-Dragon casts [Xenagos, God of Revels]. [06:46:53] TheUr-Dragon casts [The Great Henge]. [06:47:07] Turn 5: Dennabeast [06:47:08] Dennabeast puts triggered ability from [Wall of Shards] onto the stack (Cumulative upkeepAn opponent gains 1 life (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this permanent ...). [06:47:14] Dennabeast puts an age counter on [Wall of Shards]. [06:47:38] Dennabeast has conceded from the game. [06:47:40] Dennabeast loses the game. [06:47:40] Dennabeast is now a watcher. [06:47:40] Dennabeast has stopped watching. [06:47:44] Turn 5: Magical_Hacker [06:47:56] Magical_Hacker casts [Swiftfoot Boots]. [06:47:57] IHateFPS has conceded from the game. [06:47:58] IHateFPS loses the game. [06:47:58] Couldn't put triggered ability from [Sefris of the Hidden Ways] on the stack. [06:47:58] IHateFPS is now a watcher. [06:47:58] IHateFPS has stopped watching. [06:48:11] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Its hard to be too mad. he was stuck on two lands. [06:48:32] Turn 5: TheUr-Dragon [06:49:07] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Well, since it is just us, did you ever make a deck tech on Xenagos? [06:49:13] TheUr-Dragon plays [Command Tower]. [06:49:56] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: A long time ago, yes xD [06:50:14] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Why keep a two land hand? [06:50:20] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: That's the real question [06:50:45] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: It had belaged recovery and a peice of ramp. So I really had 4 [06:50:51] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Oh you mean the other guy. [06:51:08] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Yeah. You are right. [06:51:12] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [Xenagos, God of Revels] onto the stack targeting [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] (At the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature you control gains haste and gets ...). [06:51:20] Magical_Hacker is being attacked by [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] [06:51:39] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] onto the stack (Whenever Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, you may disca...). [06:51:48] TheUr-Dragon discards [Scavenger Grounds]. [06:51:48] TheUr-Dragon discards [Embercleave]. [06:51:49] TheUr-Dragon draws two cards with [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion]'s ability. [06:52:30] TheUr-Dragon casts [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate]. [06:52:36] TheUr-Dragon puts a loyalty counter on [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate]. [06:52:36] TheUr-Dragon activates an ability of [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate] ( Create a 3/3 green Beast creature token. Put your choice of a vigilance counter, a reach counter,...). [06:52:37] TheUr-Dragon's [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate] creates a Beast Token. [06:52:43] TheUr-Dragon chooses Vigilance counter for [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate]. [06:52:43] TheUr-Dragon puts a vigilance counter on [Beast Token]. [06:53:12] TheUr-Dragon casts [Greater Good]. [06:53:23] Turn 6: Magical_Hacker [06:53:57] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Is it still on youtube. I would like to look at your mana values. :) [06:54:33] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Unfortunately, it isnt. That said, I did post on reddit recently why the whole "mana curve" thing in Commander isn't really understood properly [06:55:12] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: If you increase the output of your ramp to 2 or more without increasing the mana costs of them to more than 4, you can easily play what other people consider to be curve that are too rich in high cmcs [06:55:14] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: I will look it up. I really liked your videos. [06:55:30] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: I'll get you a link [06:55:32] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: :) [06:56:01] Magical_Hacker discards [Cavern-Hoard Dragon]. [06:56:01] Turn 6: TheUr-Dragon [06:56:51] TheUr-Dragon removes two loyalty counters from [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate]. [06:56:51] TheUr-Dragon activates an ability of [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate] ( When you cast your next creature spell this turn, search your library for a creature card with le...). [06:57:08] TheUr-Dragon casts [Etali, Primal Conqueror]. [06:57:09] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [Vivien, Monsters' Advocate] onto the stack (Until end of turn, When you cast your next creature spell, search your library for a creature card...). [06:57:38] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [The Great Henge] onto the stack (Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on it ...). [06:57:47] TheUr-Dragon puts a +1/+1 counter on [Malignus]. [06:57:47] TheUr-Dragon draws a card with [The Great Henge]'s ability. [06:57:56] Magical_Hacker casts [Tibalt's Trickery] targeting [Etali, Primal Conqueror]. [06:57:57] [CHAT] PDBot: [sU]Tibalt's Trickery[sU] has an advantageous bug. Tibalt's Trickery allows the person casting a spell using it to cast a spell that was milled and then exiled by an effect like Dryad MIlitant [06:58:03] TheUr-Dragon mills [Sol Ring] and [Snow-Covered Forest]. [06:58:58] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: I couldnt find what I was looking for, but I did find this: https://twitter.com/Magical__Hacker/status/1650457576792899592 [06:59:12] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Also GG WP :) [06:59:19] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: I don't see the card that you hit with trickery. [06:59:59] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: oh, its ambush. no targets. [07:00:19] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Thanks man. That means a lot from you! [07:00:35] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Do you like temple or is this a budget brew. [07:00:49] TheUr-Dragon puts triggered ability from [Xenagos, God of Revels] onto the stack targeting [Malignus] (At the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature you control gains haste and gets ...). [07:02:13] Magical_Hacker is being attacked by [Malignus], [Beast Token], and [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion] [07:02:17] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Temple is awesome [07:02:28] TheUr-Dragon wins the game. Winner: TheUr-Dragon Game 1 Completed. [07:02:37] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Not so great 1v1 though lol [07:02:58] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: I guess the logic is more of the game is played after 5 lands than before? [07:03:00] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Take care! And remember, go for ramp that gets you a big effect for 4 mana or less [07:03:05] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Exactly [07:03:15] [CHAT] TheUr-Dragon: Thanks man!