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Kanaa,Magical_Hacker,TeddyTheYeti,MyTrapCard

== Game 1 (842232916) ==
[Time] 1687662442
[06:07:24] PDBot has started watching.
[06:07:31] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: hi everyone
[06:07:36] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: good luck and have fun
[06:07:37] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: hello there.
[06:07:40] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: gl hf
[06:07:46] TeddyTheYeti chooses to play first.
[06:07:46] TeddyTheYeti chooses [Evra, Halcyon Witness] as their commander.
[06:07:46] MyTrapCard chooses [Athreos, God of Passage] as their commander.
[06:07:46] Kanaa chooses [Solphim, Mayhem Dominus] as their commander.
[06:07:46] Magical_Hacker chooses [Jacob Hauken, Inspector] as their commander.
[06:07:55] TeddyTheYeti begins the game with seven cards in hand.
[06:08:02] [CHAT] Kanaa: gl hf
[06:08:14] MyTrapCard begins the game with seven cards in hand.
[06:08:19] Kanaa mulligans to seven cards.
[06:08:23] Magical_Hacker mulligans to seven cards.
[06:08:29] Kanaa mulligans to six cards.
[06:08:36] Magical_Hacker mulligans to six cards.
[06:08:43] Kanaa puts a card on the bottom of their library and begins the game with six cards in hand.
[06:08:49] Magical_Hacker puts a card on the bottom of their library and begins the game with six cards in hand.
[06:08:49] Turn 1: TeddyTheYeti
[06:08:55] TeddyTheYeti plays [Fountain of Cho].
[06:09:40] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: A storage land? rare to see those.
[06:09:51] Turn 1: MyTrapCard
[06:09:54] MyTrapCard plays [Swamp].
[06:10:04] Turn 1: Kanaa
[06:10:05] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: mono white ramp!
[06:10:09] Kanaa plays [Mountain].
[06:10:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: fair enough
[06:10:34] Turn 1: Magical_Hacker
[06:10:35] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: also, I have a double damage deck and have not seen solphim
[06:10:42] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: instant include
[06:10:46] Magical_Hacker plays [Silundi Isle].
[06:11:12] Turn 2: TeddyTheYeti
[06:11:23] TeddyTheYeti plays TeddyTheYeti.
[06:11:36] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Fountain of Cho] ( Put a storage counter on Fountain of Cho.).
[06:11:39] TeddyTheYeti puts a storage counter on [Fountain of Cho].
[06:11:46] TeddyTheYeti casts Kanaa.
[06:11:53] TeddyTheYeti casts [Eye of Vecna].
[06:11:57] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (When Eye of Vecna enters the battlefield, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:12:10] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: hey guys, he's gonna get his commander out NEXT turn.
[06:12:17] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: might wanna get blockers out lol
[06:12:20] TeddyTheYeti draws a card with [Eye of Vecna]'s ability.
[06:12:36] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: no i will not, blockers are a good idea tho
[06:12:41] TeddyTheYeti casts [Cleric Class].
[06:12:41] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: because in 2 turns, he can hit us for lethal
[06:13:10] Turn 2: MyTrapCard
[06:13:15] MyTrapCard plays [Isolated Chapel].
[06:13:16] [CHAT] Kanaa: if he exchanges his life, i can probably just kill him
[06:13:20] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: Fair warning, this might be the most glass cannon commander 
[06:13:25] MyTrapCard casts [Cruel Celebrant].
[06:13:34] Turn 2: Kanaa
[06:13:36] [CHAT] Kanaa: 4 dmg at instant speed shouldnt be difficult
[06:13:38] Kanaa plays [Mountain].
[06:13:41] Kanaa casts [Mindcrank].
[06:13:53] Turn 2: Magical_Hacker
[06:14:03] Magical_Hacker plays [Island].
[06:14:06] Magical_Hacker casts [Sol Ring].
[06:14:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: fair enough, but youll need the mana to make it happen before that
[06:14:28] Magical_Hacker casts [Jacob Hauken, Inspector].
[06:14:40] Turn 3: TeddyTheYeti
[06:14:45] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[06:14:45] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:15:01] TeddyTheYeti draws a card with [Eye of Vecna]'s ability.
[06:15:02] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:15:08] TeddyTheYeti mills [Plains] and [Scaretiller].
[06:15:13] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[06:15:13] TeddyTheYeti lost the flip.
[06:15:23] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:15:42] TeddyTheYeti mills [Hedron Archive], [Plains], and [Mirage Mirror].
[06:15:57] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: It looks scary, but my only hast is the boots and I would have to pay four on top of that to be lethal
[06:16:00] TeddyTheYeti plays [Plains].
[06:16:20] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Fountain of Cho] ( Put a storage counter on Fountain of Cho.).
[06:16:21] TeddyTheYeti puts a storage counter on [Fountain of Cho].
[06:16:25] TeddyTheYeti casts [Fellwar Stone].
[06:16:43] Turn 3: MyTrapCard
[06:16:57] MyTrapCard casts [Arcane Signet].
[06:17:13] Turn 3: Kanaa
[06:17:30] Kanaa plays [Mountain].
[06:17:42] Kanaa casts [Rampaging Ferocidon].
[06:18:08] Turn 3: Magical_Hacker
[06:18:18] Magical_Hacker plays [Misty Rainforest].
[06:18:30] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: thats why i said 2 turns. that and the mana restriction
[06:19:03] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Misty Rainforest] ( Search your library for a Forest or Island card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.).
[06:19:04] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:19:26] Magical_Hacker mills [Insight].
[06:19:27] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: Its a high risk commander and thats what makes her fun
[06:19:46] Magical_Hacker casts [Tezzeret the Seeker].
[06:20:19] Magical_Hacker removes three loyalty counters from [Tezzeret the Seeker].
[06:20:20] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Tezzeret the Seeker]. (X is 3) ( Search your library for an artifact card with mana value X or less, put it onto the battlefield, ...).
[06:20:59] Turn 4: TeddyTheYeti
[06:21:03] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:21:03] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[06:21:10] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[06:21:10] TeddyTheYeti lost the flip.
[06:21:14] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:21:23] TeddyTheYeti mills [True Love's Kiss], [Light of Promise], and [Hyena Umbra].
[06:21:23] [CHAT] PDBot: [sU]Hyena Umbra[sU] has a disadvantageous bug.
Removing all abilities from the creature enchanted by an aura with Totem Armor removes the Totem Armor too
[06:21:30] TeddyTheYeti draws a card with [Eye of Vecna]'s ability.
[06:21:31] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:21:43] TeddyTheYeti mills [Soul Conduit] and [Revitalize].
[06:22:04] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: what?
[06:22:10] TeddyTheYeti plays [Plains].
[06:22:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: idk
[06:22:19] [CHAT] Kanaa: good bot
[06:22:33] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I do have that in this deck so I appreciate it
[06:22:44] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: it got milled
[06:23:01] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: yup there it is
[06:23:11] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Cleric Class] ( Level 2.).
[06:23:17] TeddyTheYeti's [Cleric Class] becomes level 2.
[06:23:20] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Fountain of Cho] ( Put a storage counter on Fountain of Cho.).
[06:23:23] TeddyTheYeti puts a storage counter on [Fountain of Cho].
[06:23:39] Turn 4: MyTrapCard
[06:23:51] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I just need to take it out of the deck then?
[06:23:53] MyTrapCard casts [Athreos, God of Passage].
[06:23:56] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: for now at least
[06:24:15] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: nah, the bug isn't very likely
[06:24:50] Turn 4: Kanaa
[06:24:57] Kanaa plays [Mountain].
[06:25:14] Magical_Hacker's [Tezzeret the Seeker] is being attacked by [Rampaging Ferocidon]
[06:25:20] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Jacob Hauken, Inspector] ( Draw a card, then exile a card from your hand face down. You may look at that card for as long as...).
[06:25:37] Magical_Hacker draws a card with [Jacob Hauken, Inspector]'s ability.
[06:25:58] Kanaa removes a loyalty counter from [Tezzeret the Seeker].
[06:26:06] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: if it removes the ability from evra tho, this deck doesnt really do anything
[06:26:17] Kanaa casts [Solphim, Mayhem Dominus].
[06:26:20] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Rampaging Ferocidon] onto the stack (Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, Rampaging Ferocidon deals 1 damage to that creat...).
[06:26:26] Turn 4: Magical_Hacker
[06:26:27] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Hyena Umbra doesn't remove any abilities
[06:26:54] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: It is saying that if something else removes the abilities from whatever Hyena Umbra is attached to, it also loses totem armor even though it shouldnt
[06:26:54] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: no, but apparently the bug does
[06:27:05] Magical_Hacker plays [Island].
[06:27:08] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: ohhhhhh
[06:27:09] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Jacob Hauken, Inspector] ( Draw a card, then exile a card from your hand face down. You may look at that card for as long as...).
[06:27:13] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: misread
[06:27:15] Magical_Hacker draws a card with [Jacob Hauken, Inspector]'s ability.
[06:27:57] [Jacob Hauken, Inspector] transforms into [Hauken's Insight].
[06:27:58] Magical_Hacker casts [Meteor Golem].
[06:27:58] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: plz be the raptor
[06:27:58] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Meteor Golem] onto the stack targeting [Solphim, Mayhem Dominus] (When Meteor Golem enters the battlefield, destroy target nonland permanent an opponent controls.).
[06:27:58] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Rampaging Ferocidon] onto the stack (Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, Rampaging Ferocidon deals 1 damage to that creat...).
[06:27:58] [CHAT] Kanaa: no!
[06:27:58] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: YOOOO
[06:28:01] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:28:01] [CHAT] Kanaa: phew
[06:28:05] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: ehh that works too
[06:28:48] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: still would prefer the raptor b gone tho
[06:28:48] Magical_Hacker mills [Boompile] and [Portal to Phyrexia].
[06:28:48] [CHAT] Kanaa: nah
[06:28:49] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: ya
[06:28:49] [CHAT] Kanaa: raptor is our friend
[06:28:49] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: dont worry too much
[06:28:50] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: if you wanna get rid of it, I'm not gonna stop you
[06:28:50] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: my deck has barely any removal
[06:29:05] Turn 5: TeddyTheYeti
[06:29:05] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:29:05] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[06:29:05] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[06:29:05] TeddyTheYeti lost the flip.
[06:29:17] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: tails always fails i guess
[06:29:23] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:29:26] TeddyTheYeti mills [Paladin of Prahv], [Plains], and [Plains].
[06:29:39] TeddyTheYeti plays [Plains].
[06:30:07] TeddyTheYeti casts [Evra, Halcyon Witness].
[06:30:11] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Rampaging Ferocidon] onto the stack (Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, Rampaging Ferocidon deals 1 damage to that creat...).
[06:30:21] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:30:24] TeddyTheYeti mills [Plains].
[06:30:28] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Fountain of Cho] ( Put a storage counter on Fountain of Cho.).
[06:30:29] TeddyTheYeti puts a storage counter on [Fountain of Cho].
[06:30:44] Turn 5: MyTrapCard
[06:30:57] MyTrapCard casts [Oketra's Monument].
[06:31:17] Turn 5: Kanaa
[06:31:33] Kanaa casts [Manabarbs].
[06:31:51] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: MMMM dont like that.
[06:32:03] Turn 5: Magical_Hacker
[06:32:04] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Hauken's Insight] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library face down. You may look at tha...).
[06:32:21] Magical_Hacker plays [Academy Ruins].
[06:32:43] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:32:49] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:32:57] Magical_Hacker mills [Sculpting Steel].
[06:33:00] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:33:07] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:33:12] Magical_Hacker mills [Desert of the Mindful].
[06:33:21] Magical_Hacker casts [Burnished Hart].
[06:33:24] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Rampaging Ferocidon] onto the stack (Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, Rampaging Ferocidon deals 1 damage to that creat...).
[06:33:30] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:33:33] Magical_Hacker mills [Myriad Landscape].
[06:33:36] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Burnished Hart] ( Search your library for up to two basic land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then sh...).
[06:33:41] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: makes me want to rebuild my nekusar so much
[06:34:03] Turn 6: TeddyTheYeti
[06:34:08] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:34:09] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[06:34:15] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: dont forget that lifelink is turned off
[06:34:18] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: can we hold a temp alliance until kanaa isnt constantly doing damage against us?
[06:34:27] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[06:34:27] TeddyTheYeti won the flip.
[06:34:35] [CHAT] Kanaa: whaaat
[06:34:40] [CHAT] Kanaa: how rude
[06:34:57] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: you or me are doing the most rn
[06:35:21] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: It is in my interest to see MyTrapCard do more stuff
[06:35:25] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: at the moment
[06:35:31] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: we play and ur cards deal damage. just by playing, we're being hurt. its just like life, and i dont like that
[06:35:41] TeddyTheYeti plays [Plains].
[06:35:45] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: thnx hacker
[06:35:46] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: #TooReal
[06:35:46] [CHAT] Kanaa: xD
[06:36:08] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:36:13] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: I added you all as buddies. Super chill folks are great
[06:36:28] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:36:31] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: same
[06:36:46] TeddyTheYeti mills [Surestrike Trident].
[06:36:52] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I dont know how to do that or I would lol
[06:36:56] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:37:02] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:37:06] TeddyTheYeti mills [Plains].
[06:37:08] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: right click the name in the chat, then add as buddy
[06:37:11] TeddyTheYeti casts [Sunbond] targeting [Evra, Halcyon Witness].
[06:37:26] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: NOT IT
[06:37:34] TeddyTheYeti removes four storage counters from [Fountain of Cho].
[06:37:35] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:37:42] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:37:57] TeddyTheYeti mills [Plains].
[06:38:04] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:38:10] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:38:15] TeddyTheYeti mills [Noble Purpose].
[06:38:19] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:38:24] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:38:28] TeddyTheYeti mills [Children of Korlis].
[06:38:34] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: can someone plz kill the dino
[06:38:46] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: or can anyone, im willing to play politics
[06:38:47] TeddyTheYeti casts [Banishing Light].
[06:38:55] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: i got it
[06:38:58] [CHAT] Kanaa: nice
[06:38:59] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Banishing Light] onto the stack targeting [Rampaging Ferocidon] (When Banishing Light enters the battlefield, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls u...).
[06:39:00] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: thnx teddy
[06:39:25] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Evra, Halcyon Witness] ( Exchange your life total with Evra, Halcyon Witness's power.).
[06:39:38] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:39:41] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: now heres to hoping for more lands
[06:39:43] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: and kanaa Im sorry but I dont want to mill out
[06:39:58] TeddyTheYeti mills 15 cards.
[06:40:10] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I.. did not think that through entirely
[06:40:19] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: hmm
[06:40:35] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: NOT IT
[06:40:38] Kanaa is being attacked by [Evra, Halcyon Witness]
[06:40:53] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: shouldve said "not it" kanaa
[06:40:54] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: if not for mindcrank i wouldnt
[06:41:00] Kanaa has been dealt 19 total damage by TeddyTheYeti's commander, [Evra, Halcyon Witness].
[06:41:06] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Evra, Halcyon Witness] onto the stack (Whenever you gain life, put that many +1/+1 counters on this creature.).
[06:41:07] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Cleric Class] onto the stack targeting [Evra, Halcyon Witness] (Whenever you gain life, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.).
[06:41:13] TeddyTheYeti puts a +1/+1 counter on [Evra, Halcyon Witness].
[06:41:17] TeddyTheYeti puts twenty +1/+1 counters on [Evra, Halcyon Witness].
[06:41:46] Turn 6: MyTrapCard
[06:42:02] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:42:08] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:42:11] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: ARE YOU READY KIDS?
[06:42:18] MyTrapCard mills [Orzhov Signet].
[06:42:24] MyTrapCard casts [Edgewalker].
[06:42:24] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:42:30] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:42:32] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: uh oh
[06:42:37] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: Im gonna die to mindcrank
[06:42:39] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[06:42:40] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:42:45] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:42:56] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: u got 49 cards left
[06:42:57] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[06:42:58] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:43:02] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:43:09] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[06:43:09] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:43:13] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:43:19] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[06:43:20] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:43:23] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:43:30] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[06:43:31] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:43:36] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:43:37] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I'm not confident
[06:43:50] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: then ill help as much as i can
[06:44:01] Kanaa is being attacked by [Athreos, God of Passage] and [Cruel Celebrant]
[06:44:24] Kanaa has been dealt 5 total damage by MyTrapCard's commander, [Athreos, God of Passage].
[06:44:36] Turn 6: Kanaa
[06:44:46] Kanaa plays [Mountain].
[06:45:13] Kanaa casts [Heartless Hidetsugu].
[06:45:14] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:45:14] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:45:15] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:45:15] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:45:16] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:45:24] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: HMMMMMMM
[06:45:47] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: interesting play
[06:45:54] [CHAT] Kanaa: youre gonna gain a bunch of life, idk why youre worries
[06:45:57] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: at least it doesnt have haste?
[06:45:58] [CHAT] Kanaa: worried*
[06:46:10] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Academy Ruins] targeting [Sculpting Steel] ( Put target artifact card from your graveyard on top of your library.).
[06:46:11] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:46:11] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:46:14] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:46:18] Magical_Hacker mills Magical_Hacker.
[06:46:24] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:46:26] Magical_Hacker mills Kanaa.
[06:46:28] Kanaa puts [Sculpting Steel] on top of Magical_Hacker's library with [Academy Ruins]'s ability.
[06:46:39] Turn 6: Magical_Hacker
[06:46:40] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Hauken's Insight] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library face down. You may look at tha...).
[06:46:40] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: how does damage = life gain?
[06:46:47] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:46:54] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:46:59] Magical_Hacker mills [Sculpting Steel].
[06:47:09] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:47:13] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:47:14] Magical_Hacker mills [Mystic Remora].
[06:47:15] [CHAT] Kanaa: cruel celebrant and sacing the apostles
[06:47:26] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Academy Ruins] targeting [Portal to Phyrexia] ( Put target artifact card from your graveyard on top of your library.).
[06:47:28] Kanaa puts [Portal to Phyrexia] on top of Magical_Hacker's library with [Academy Ruins]'s ability.
[06:47:29] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: or lifelink?
[06:47:41] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: what're you talkning about?
[06:47:46] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: yeah, assuming i draw 1 more apostle
[06:47:52] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: which knowing my luck...
[06:48:12] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:48:17] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:48:19] Magical_Hacker mills [Island].
[06:48:23] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Manabarbs] onto the stack (Whenever a player taps a land for mana, Manabarbs deals 1 damage to that player.).
[06:48:28] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:48:30] Magical_Hacker mills [Manor Gargoyle].
[06:48:33] Magical_Hacker plays [Island].
[06:48:42] Magical_Hacker casts [Staff of Nin].
[06:48:52] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Staff of Nin] targeting [Warrior Token] ( Staff of Nin deals 1 damage to any target.).
[06:49:02] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: How do you only have 2 lands?
[06:49:03] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:49:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: like i said, my luck
[06:49:18] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: i have 32 lands too
[06:49:24] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: its almost 1/3 of my deck
[06:49:26] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Kanaa (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:49:34] [CHAT] Kanaa: 32 lands is really low
[06:49:38] MyTrapCard returns no cards to their owner's hand with [Athreos, God of Passage]'s ability.
[06:49:42] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:49:42] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:49:44] Magical_Hacker mills [Alhammarret's Archive].
[06:49:45] TeddyTheYeti mills [The Birth of Meletis].
[06:49:50] Magical_Hacker casts [Portal to Phyrexia].
[06:49:53] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Portal to Phyrexia] onto the stack (When Portal to Phyrexia enters the battlefield, each opponent sacrifices three creatures.).
[06:49:57] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: 35 seems good for a 2 color deck though, right?
[06:49:59] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: 1/3 still means 1/3. and its only a bit low with other ramp
[06:50:07] [CHAT] Kanaa: 35? no
[06:50:13] [CHAT] Kanaa: 37-40 is pretty standard
[06:50:18] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: 39 over here
[06:50:27] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: for a 2 color deck? thats a lot
[06:50:34] [CHAT] Kanaa: no, its not
[06:50:35] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: most of my cards are low cmc too so,
[06:50:37] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:50:39] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:50:42] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:50:46] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Kanaa (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:50:50] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Kanaa (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:50:55] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Kanaa (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:51:01] [CHAT] Kanaa: mtg shuffler is also bias towards certain land count decks
[06:51:04] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: Id go 35 depending on mana rocks
[06:51:12] MyTrapCard returns no cards to their owner's hand with [Athreos, God of Passage]'s ability.
[06:51:15] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:51:16] Kanaa puts triggered ability from [Mindcrank] onto the stack (Whenever an opponent loses life, that player mills that many cards.).
[06:51:17] Magical_Hacker mills [Maze of Ith].
[06:51:20] TeddyTheYeti mills [Austere Command].
[06:51:23] Kanaa loses the game.
[06:51:27] Kanaa is now a watcher.
[06:51:28] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: youd be surprised how much of a difference 2 or 3 lands makes
[06:51:38] Turn 7: TeddyTheYeti
[06:51:43] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[06:51:44] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[06:51:44] Kanaa has stopped watching.
[06:51:47] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: yeah but with a 1/3 chance, i shouldve drawn 2 lands by turn 6. those 2 lands ive started with
[06:51:56] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[06:51:56] TeddyTheYeti lost the flip.
[06:52:02] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: i should have 4 lmao
[06:52:09] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: lmho
[06:52:15] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: there. th pg version
[06:52:22] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: laughing my head of
[06:52:24] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: off
[06:52:31] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: if youre running low 30s too, mull till you get 3 lands
[06:52:38] TeddyTheYeti draws a card with [Eye of Vecna]'s ability.
[06:52:58] TeddyTheYeti casts [Knight of the White Orchid].
[06:53:01] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Knight of the White Orchid] onto the stack (When Knight of the White Orchid enters the battlefield, if an opponent controls more lands than yo...).
[06:53:19] TeddyTheYeti plays [City of Shadows].
[06:53:30] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Fountain of Cho] ( Put a storage counter on Fountain of Cho.).
[06:53:32] TeddyTheYeti puts a storage counter on [Fountain of Cho].
[06:53:37] TeddyTheYeti casts [Wayfarer's Bauble].
[06:53:54] TeddyTheYeti activates an ability of [Wayfarer's Bauble] ({2}, {T}, Sacrifice Wayfarer's Bauble: Search your library for a basic land card, put that card on...).
[06:54:05] TeddyTheYeti casts [Griffin Aerie].
[06:54:27] Turn 7: MyTrapCard
[06:54:34] MyTrapCard plays [Plains].
[06:54:41] MyTrapCard casts [Pawn of Ulamog].
[06:54:42] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[06:54:46] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[06:55:17] Magical_Hacker is being attacked by [Warrior Token] and [Warrior Token]
[06:55:24] [Meteor Golem] blocks [Warrior Token].
[06:55:38] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Magical_Hacker (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:55:40] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:55:53] MyTrapCard returns no cards to their owner's hand with [Athreos, God of Passage]'s ability.
[06:56:00] Turn 7: Magical_Hacker
[06:56:05] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: watch, now i wont draw an apostle
[06:56:06] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Staff of Nin] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card.).
[06:56:12] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Hauken's Insight] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library face down. You may look at tha...).
[06:56:28] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: brb mom having computer issues
[06:56:39] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Portal to Phyrexia] onto the stack targeting Kanaa (At the beginning of your upkeep, put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield un...).
[06:56:52] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Academy Ruins] targeting [Sculpting Steel] ( Put target artifact card from your graveyard on top of your library.).
[06:56:53] Magical_Hacker puts [Sculpting Steel] on top of their library with [Academy Ruins]'s ability.
[06:57:06] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Staff of Nin] targeting [Cruel Celebrant] ( Staff of Nin deals 1 damage to any target.).
[06:57:12] Magical_Hacker activates an ability of [Staff of Nin] targeting [Cruel Celebrant] ( Staff of Nin deals 1 damage to any target.).
[06:58:10] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: back
[06:58:13] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Athreos, God of Passage] onto the stack targeting Magical_Hacker (Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.).
[06:58:16] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[06:58:18] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[06:59:04] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[06:59:22] Magical_Hacker draws a card with [Staff of Nin]'s ability.
[06:59:34] Magical_Hacker plays [Scalding Tarn].
[06:59:47] Magical_Hacker casts [Imprisoned in the Moon] targeting [Athreos, God of Passage].
[06:59:59] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: aww what
[07:00:09] Magical_Hacker casts [Glasspool Mimic].
[07:00:21] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Meteor Golem] onto the stack targeting [Shadowborn Apostle] (When Meteor Golem enters the battlefield, destroy target nonland permanent an opponent controls.).
[07:00:27] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:00:33] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:00:41] Magical_Hacker casts [Sculpting Steel].
[07:00:46] Magical_Hacker puts triggered ability from [Portal to Phyrexia] onto the stack (When Portal to Phyrexia enters the battlefield, each opponent sacrifices three creatures.).
[07:00:50] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: off topic: how long until we get the super auto pets secret lair
[07:01:21] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: idk. i dont pay attention to secret lairs
[07:01:26] Turn 8: TeddyTheYeti
[07:01:34] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from [Eye of Vecna] onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {2}. If you do, you draw a card and you lose 2 life.).
[07:01:35] TeddyTheYeti puts triggered ability from Kanaa onto the stack (At the beginning of your upkeep, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Mana Crypt deals 3 damage to y...).
[07:01:41] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Your guess is as good as mine
[07:01:43] TeddyTheYeti chooses 'tails'.
[07:01:43] TeddyTheYeti lost the flip.
[07:01:56] TeddyTheYeti draws a card with [Eye of Vecna]'s ability.
[07:02:07] TeddyTheYeti plays [Plains].
[07:02:29] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Wake me up when they make an Avatar secret lair (the blue people), an Avatar secret lair (the air people), or a Game of Thrones secret lair
[07:02:29] TeddyTheYeti removes a storage counter from [Fountain of Cho].
[07:02:48] TeddyTheYeti removes a storage counter from [Fountain of Cho].
[07:03:01] TeddyTheYeti casts [Axis of Mortality].
[07:03:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: NOT IT
[07:03:28] Turn 8: MyTrapCard
[07:03:31] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: HEART OF THE CARDS
[07:03:31] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: just nobody hit me
[07:03:37] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: YEAHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:03:39] MyTrapCard casts [Shadowborn Apostle].
[07:03:40] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Oketra's Monument] onto the stack (Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token with vigilance.).
[07:03:44] MyTrapCard's [Oketra's Monument] creates a Warrior Token.
[07:03:51] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: HEART OF THE CARDSSSSSSSSSSSS
[07:04:08] MyTrapCard casts [Victimize] targeting [Shadowborn Apostle], and [Cruel Celebrant].
[07:04:13] MyTrapCard sacrifices [Warrior Token].
[07:04:21] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: an avatar secret lair would be tough. What is airbending in mtg?
[07:04:41] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: reach
[07:04:45] MyTrapCard activates an ability of [Shadowborn Apostle] ( Search your library for a Demon creature card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.).
[07:04:52] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:04:54] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:04:57] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:04:59] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:05:02] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: flying, if you include season 2 of Korra
[07:05:02] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:05:04] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Cruel Celebrant] onto the stack (Whenever Cruel Celebrant or another creature or planeswalker you control dies, each opponent loses...).
[07:05:05] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:06] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:06] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:07] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:07] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:08] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Pawn of Ulamog] onto the stack (Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorl...).
[07:05:09] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: or was it season 3, I can't remember
[07:05:14] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: no that would only be for 1 character then
[07:05:19] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: season 3
[07:05:23] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: gg
[07:05:29] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:05:34] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:05:39] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:06:02] [CHAT] TeddyTheYeti: I just want a Keyoshi commander
[07:06:03] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:06:39] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:07:00] TeddyTheYeti has conceded from the game.
[07:07:09] TeddyTheYeti loses the game.
[07:07:09] TeddyTheYeti is now a watcher.
[07:07:09] TeddyTheYeti has stopped watching.
[07:07:15] MyTrapCard's [Pawn of Ulamog] creates an Eldrazi Spawn Token.
[07:07:18] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: GG
[07:07:50] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: Teddy
[07:08:03] MyTrapCard puts triggered ability from [Burning-Rune Demon] onto the stack (When Burning-Rune Demon enters the battlefield, you may search your library for exactly two cards ...).
[07:08:32] MyTrapCard reveals [Shadowborn Apostle].
[07:08:32] MyTrapCard reveals [Skullclamp].
[07:08:39] Magical_Hacker chooses Shadowborn Apostle.
[07:08:56] [CHAT] MyTrapCard: i did not read that card correctly
[07:09:02] MyTrapCard has conceded from the game.
[07:09:02] Magical_Hacker wins the game.
Winner: Magical_Hacker
Game 1 Completed.
[07:09:11] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: no worries
[07:09:23] MyTrapCard has left the game.
[07:09:24] [CHAT] Magical_Hacker: I think you probably had me dead there but I could be wrong